Drimneen

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Drimneen is in the civil parish of Kilcummin. The civil Parish corresponds with the following Church of Ireland parish of Kilcummin, Galway West. In general the civil parish and the Church of Ireland parish are the same as is the case in the Kilcummin Oughterard area.

Information from O’Donovan’s Field Name Books

Irish Form of Name:  Druimnín

Translation:   little drum or ridge

Parish:  Kilcummin

View all place names in this civil parish.

Other Forms of the Name with the authority  source (if provided) in italics.

Drimneen

Druimnín 

Drimneen Boundary Surveyor
Drimnin Barony Cess Book
Drimneen Local
Drimneen Rector of Kilcummin

Boundaries:

This is a list of townlands that share a border with Drimneen.

Other placenames in this townland:

Some other placenames in or near this townland are:

Situation:

Drimneen is situated in the eastern part of the parish. It is bounded on the West and North West by Raha, on the South by Carhoondolla and on the East by Killannin Parish.

Landlord

Robert Martin, Ross, Proprietor.

Martin (Ross) – The Martin family was established beside Ross Lake in the barony of Moycullen, county Galway, from the late 16th century, where they purchased land from the O’Flahertys. They were Royalist supporters and were dispossessed of their property in the city of Galway by the Cromwellians. Robert Martin received a grant of 2,909 acres in the barony of Moycullen, by patent dated 21 Aug 1677. Jasper Martin of Ross, who died in 1700, had two sons Jasper and Richard, from whom descend the two branches of the family settled at Ross and Ballynahinch. Nicholas Martin, who died in 1811, married Elizabeth O’Hara, daughter of Robert O’Hara of Lenaboy, and according to Burke’s ”Landed Gentry”, a grandniece of James O’Hara, 2nd Baron Tyrawley. Their grandson, James Martin of Ross, had sixteen children from his two marriages. His daughter, Maud, married H. Callwell and they were the parents of the author, J. M. Callwell. The youngest daughter of James Martin was Violet Florence Martin of the well known literary team Somerville and Ross. The Martins of Ross owned 5,767 acres in county Galway in the 1870s. They advertised the sale of their estate in the Landed Estates’ Court in May 1885.

Information on the owner’s family from the Landed Estates Database; this information will display in a new window:

 Robert Martin is a member of the Martin (Ross) family.

Information from the Down Survey Website:

Townland of DRIMNEEN

Down Survey Name: Drymnyn
1641 Owner(s): Martin, Robert (Catholic)
1670 Owner(s): Martin, Robert (Catholic)
County: Galway
Barony: Muckullin
Parish: Killcumyn
Unprofitable land: 1 plantation acres
Profitable land: 17 plantation acres
Forfeited: 17 plantation acres

The Down Survey website will tell you who owned this townland in 1641 (pre Cromwell) and in 1671 (post Cromwell).

Down Survey website

Tithe Applotment Books:

 About the Records

Tithes were a tax on agricultural produce which was payable by the occupiers of agricultural land. They were the main source of income for the parish clergy of the Church of Ireland (the largest Protestant church and the church established by law). However, in many parishes a large part of the tithes were ‘appropriate’, which meant that they were payable to a bishop, cathedral chapter or other ecclesiastical recipient, or were ‘impropriate’, which generally meant that they were payable to a local landowner. The parishes used in the Tithe Applotment Books are civil or Church of Ireland parishes, which often differ in name and territory from Catholic parishes, Acts of Parliament of 1823 and 1832 provided for the conversion of tithes into a fixed charge on land, and specified the average price of wheat or oats in the parish in the seven years before 1821 as the basis on which the tithes would be calculated. They also extended the application of tithes to pasture, where previously they had been levied only on tillage.

This change in the law resulted in the valuation of individual holdings in almost all parishes containing agricultural land, in order to assess the portion of the tithes for which each occupier of land would be liable. The apportionment was recorded for each Church of Ireland parish in a Tithe Composition Applotment Book. The information was collected and the amounts were calculated by two Parochial Commissioners, one of whom was appointed by the cess-payers of the parish and the other by the relevant Diocese of the Church of Ireland. This procedure was carried out in over 2,500 parishes between the years 1823 and 1837.

The Tithe Applotment Books are in a variety of formats, from a few pages sewn together to elaborately bound volumes. In most cases they are written in manuscript throughout, although some consist of manuscript entries on printed questionnaires. The information in the books is broadly uniform and generally includes at least the name of occupier; the size of holding, the valuation and the tithe payable. In some cases more detailed information is provided. Some volumes have maps and most have certificates and correspondence attached.

The sub-divisions of the parish were recorded. Some of these subdivisions, such as ploughlands, ceased to be in official use after the six inch survey of the Ordnance Survey was completed in the 1840s. Only productive land was subject to tithe, and the books usually distinguish between this tithable land and untithable land such as roads or mountains. Tithable land was in some cases classified by quality, and a money value was given to each class. In some cases the proportion of tithe payable to the rector, vicar or lay proprietor of the tithes was set out. The column for observations was sometimes completed, with information about commonage, for example.

There are a number of other points that should be noted. The acreages given in the Tithe Applotment Books are in Irish or Plantation measure, which is 1.62 times larger than statute measure. Only occupiers of land at the time of the tithe composition are recorded, so not all heads of households living in a parish at the time are included. Only rural areas are systematically covered, although inhabitants of towns who held plots of cultivable land are included. The equivalent tax in urban areas, Minister’s Money, has left few records.

The Tithe Applotment Books are an important source of information for a wide variety of researchers of pre-Famine Ireland. They provide the first surviving national list of the occupiers of land, and are used by genealogists as a partial substitute for returns of the 1821 and 1831 censuses of population, which were destroyed in 1922. They also record information on the quality of land, and provide information on pre-Ordnance Survey territorial divisions, some of which were not recognised after the 1840s.

The National Archives hold the original Tithe Applotment Books only for the twenty-six counties of the Republic of Ireland. The books for the six counties of Northern Ireland are held in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland in Belfast. (http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/aboutmore.jsp)

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Galway&parish=Kilcummin&townland=Drimneen&search=Search

Tithe Applotment – Drimneen

Michl Gaughagan, Mr Davin, Patt Gavin, Patt Murry & John Murry had 20 acres; 7 acres of 1st quality land with a payment of 1s 6d; 7 acres 2nd quality with a payment of 1s, 4 acres 3rd quality with a payment of 3d, 2 acres of 4th quality land with a payment of ½d.

The Tithes payments went to Richard Martin Esq. James Daly & John Wilson.

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004587459/004587459_00445.pdf

Griffiths Valuation 1850’s

In Griffith’s valuation the area was 39 acres, 1 rood & 34 perch with a land value £13 0s 0d. Value of Buildings (House & Corn Mill) was £5 0s & 0d. Total valuation of £18 0s 0d.

View the heads of households in the townland at this time;

Poor Law Union Ireland

In Ireland the Poor Relief Act of 1838 divided into districts or “unions” in which the local taxable inhabitants were to be financially responsible for all paupers in the area. In 1898 the Poor Law Union was adopted as the basic administrative division in place of the civil parish and barony. Further subdivision into 828 registration districts and 3,751 district electoral divisions followed. Townlands were not arranged according to these divisions with parish and barony retained as a means to make comparisons with records gathered before 1898.

The 1838 Act

The main provisions of the 1838 Act were:

  • The extension of the existing Poor Law Commissioners’ powers to Ireland, with the appointment of Assistant Commissioners who were to implement the Act in Ireland.
  • The division of the country into Poor Law Unions based on Irish electoral divisions which were themselves made up from townlands.
  • The creation of a Board of Guardians for each Union, two-thirds of whom were to be elected, the other third to be appointed ex officio.
  • The setting up of a workhouse in each Union.
  • The collection of a local poor-rate to finance the system.
  • Assistance for emigration.

Initially, 130 Unions were created, based upon 2,049 electoral divisions. The divisions were composed of townlands, a peculiarly Irish unit, traditionally of 120 Irish acres in area. (Between 1848 and 1850, an additional 33 Unions were created by subdividing and reorganizing the boundaries of some existing Unions, particularly in the west of the country.

Boards of Guardians were elected annually on 25th March. Only rate-payers were eligible for election, which effectively disenfranchised most of the native Irish who were usually tenants at this time. Rate-payers were allowed between one and six votes depending on the size of a valuation of their property.

Townlands

A town land is one of the smallest land divisions in Ireland. They range in size from a few acres to thousands of acres. Many are Gaelic in origin, but some came into existence after the Norman invasion 1169. Drimneen is a townland.

Population & Census Information

People who lived here:

You can retrieve a list of people who lived in this townland from 1827 to 1911. This list is compiled from the following resources.

  • The Tithe Applotment Books
  • Griffith’s Valuation
  • 1901 Census
  • 1911 Census

List of nineteenth century and early twentieth century inhabitants.

Census 1841-1911 

1841 – 1 house with 6 people

1851 – 1 house with 3 people

1861 – 1 house with 9 people

1871 – 1 house with 10 people

1881 – 1 house with 4 people (2 males / 2 females). There was no outbuildings. Total Valuation of Houses & Lands £15 0s 0d.

1891 – No houses with no people living in the townland. There were no Outbuildings. Total Valuation of Houses & Lands £13 0s 0d.

No people lived in Drimneen in the 1901 & 1911 Census.

1841/1851 Old Age Pension Census Search Forms

McDonagh (Wind)

An application was made by McDonagh from Drimneen in the Parish of Kilcummin in the Barony of Moycullen. Reference # Cen/S/2006. The surname Wind also appears on the application. No Record was found for 1851.

Mary McDonagh

An application was made by Mary McDonagh (Donohue crossed out). Address: Mrs Mary Keane, Trabane, Lettermullen, Co. Galway

Full Names of Father and Mother of the applicant: Stephen & Maggie (Wind) McDonagh

Residence in 1851: Townland: Drimneen, Parish: Kilcummin, Barony: Moycullen, County: Galway. Garrivinnagh & Lettermullen also on the application.

The following names were found on the application: Thomas, Martin, Maggie, Anne, Barbara & Bridget. Michael Derrane.

Date of receipt: 13.2.1915 Reference: CenS/11/2006 Application No. C/15 1095

Return searched by FW 4/3/25 not found. Sheet 68 missing from Lettermullen. Information crossed out on the application (see attached link below)

Other information (see attached application form)

2/- written on top right corner of application

Application form

additional information

Out Offices and Land

The out office was a farm building, a cow house, piggery or barn. The land was very poor and sterile and people were always poverty-stricken. At this time most tenants were trying to eke out a living on 5 acres or less and a farmer needed at least 15.3 acres to survive.

Church records of births, deaths and marriages:

Church records of births, deaths and marriages are available online at http://www.rootsireland.ie. To search these records you will need to know the ‘church parish’ rather than the ‘civil parish’. (The civil parish is the pre-reformation parish and was frequently used as a unit of administration in the past.)

Drimneen is in the civil parish of Kilcummin.

Catholic parish:

This civil parish corresponds with the following Roman Catholic parish or parishes.

  • Clonbern & Kilkerrin in Galway East.
  • Carraroe in Galway West.
  • Kilannin in Galway West.
  • Kilcummin/Oughterard in Galway West.
  • Rosmuc in Galway West.

Church of Ireland parish:

This civil parish corresponds with the following Church of Ireland parish.

  • Kilcummin in Galway West.

In general, the civil parish and the Church of Ireland parish are the same, but, this is not always the case.

Maps:

It is located at 53° 23′ 47″ N, 9° 16′ 54″ W.

Original OS map of this area

Ireland was first mapped in the 1840s. These original maps are available online.

Drimneen

Original OS maps at the Ordnance Survey of Ireland website

Below is a link to the Ordnance Survey of Ireland website. It displays the original OS map that was created in the 1840s.

Drimneen

Information from Google Maps:

You can use this link to find this townland on Google Maps.

Google Maps

Information from the National Monuments Service:

You can use this link to view a map of archaeological features. This link brings you to a website wherein you will have to search for your townland.

Archaeological map from the National Monuments Service

Information from the Logainm database:

View Logainm information;

Information from Townlands.ie

http://www.townlands.ie/galway/moycullen/kilcummin/oughterard/drimneen/

This page was added on 12/02/2016.

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